Journal #1

2/20/2018

We imagine the drama in our life as being unlike any other person’s drama. Our tragedy is far greater. Hurts more. It is far more devastating that the next person’s. But is it? Or has the same type of dramas, uncertainty or hardships always been part of life? Has there always been danger in the environment, and people who do bad things to others? If so, then, is this then the human experience? How do you explain the feeling that your drama is worse than another person’s?

30 Comments

Kisha Montes link

2/21/2018 01:31:36 pm

Journal of 2-20-2018 Presentations
They Say: Michelle started us out with an example of a cheating husband leaving for Texas and not returning to his pregnant wife. Natalia tolds us all that hardship has always been apart of life and we dont let the problem control us but we should take the problem to strengthen us. Bella brought up the point of when we are right in the moment of a hardship, we do feel as if it is worse than anyone else's situation. She also feels people should "get over it". I Say: These are all really good points the presenters brought up. Someone who is going through a divorice is mourning their marraige which can be a pretty heavy load for a person to carry alone. I understand how one could feel as if they are the only person going through a hardship, because I have found through my own hardship experiences, it has given me a tunnel vision where I only see what I am going through. Although certain hardships are not always that easy to just get over, a person should take the time needed for themselves to heal and find balance back into their life and yes, do not let the hardship define you in a negative way but rather look at the lesson to be learned and allow it to strenghten you. I also feel that everyone should have empathy for what others who may be going through because some people might not be able to handle the smallest of hardships in life (and that is ok too).

erika

2/25/2018 07:26:05 pm

Kisha I definitely agree with you on the taking the time to reflect, heal, and balance where you stand when a hardship has transpired. Not letting it affect you in a negative way is crucial. Storms don't last forever! Always looking forward and accepting and learning from those experiences will have a positive impact in overcoming those predicaments. Having a kind heart, understanding, and being compassionate of others hardships will definitely make others feel supported in a way that they will be able to move past their situations. Not everyone has support from someone to succeed in dealing with these hardships.

Kisha

2/26/2018 01:39:29 pm

So true Erika. We don't know what the next person may be going through so having a kind heart for all or even a simple smile to a stranger just might bring a little sunshine to that person's day or hardship moment.

Gabriel Cortez link

2/25/2018 11:02:57 pm

Kisha, I have also had "tunnel vision where I only see what I am going through." I like your practical way to "get over it." It begins with acknowledging you are hurt and can see nothing else. You then allow for healing and balance. And if those things don't work then that would mean that the hardship experienced would define a person in a negative way. So instead, you would look for a way to be strengthened by a lesson to be learned. But what if a person experiences a horrible tragedy that has no lesson to learn? What if the drama or pain happens for no reason at all? In the circumstances where a person experiences suffering for no reason at all, there would be no lesson to be learned. In such a case, I think a person would be entirely justified to feel that his/her pain is far worse than any other. Forever.

Kisha Montes

2/26/2018 01:36:01 pm

I hear what you are saying Gabriel. Im saying, I guess from my own experience in a tramatic situation occuring to me at a very young age (in which I definatley did not ask for it), I let the pain and anger define me which led me to many years of substance abuse. When i sat back and stopped asking "Why this has happened me", but started looking at it as "ok this happened to me and has played apart in defining who I am but the anger will not define me. Now what am i to learn from this, well to NEVER be like the person who hurted me, to Never crush someones life like this person crushed mine, and to always be a proctective person with children and people in general. I always try to look at some teaching there from the good and bad as well as the horrific situations in my life. That is what helps balance me. May not work for someone else, but it's what works for me.

Gisselle Palomera

2/21/2018 09:18:06 pm

In Greek mythology there is a believe that it all began when the Titan -Prometheus, stole fire and gave it to humans. Zeus responded by having Hermes make the first woman.
The myth explains why humans must work to survive, that Pandora represents the beautiful figure of dread, something for which men can find no device or remedy. Pandora was created to trick men with her beauty and uncontrollable sexuality, to introduce falsehood and treachery and disobedience into their lives. Her task was to let loose all the evils upon the world while trapping hope, unavailable to mortal men.
Although it may not really have happened that way,
we believe that there are many different evils in the world. In fact, they plague our daily lives. We are hit with one tragedy after another. We constantly look behind and all around while we walk down a dark alley and this is because we know that as part of the human experience to fear. It is fear and pain that molds us. My tragedies are my tragedies and they have made me grow up fast and strong. my tragedies are tragic only to me. My drama seems like the end of my world not, [the] world.

Stephanie

2/22/2018 12:53:24 am

I can agree with what my classmates said, Everyone goes through drama and hardships but at that moment you think that yours is worse than anyone else. going through drama is part of just being human and in my opinion when someone is going through what to them can be the worst day of their life and thinks nobody's pain can be any worse, a person looking in from the outside the situation isn't going to feel that is worst pain because they don't feel what that person is going through but it doesn’t mean that person’s feelings aren’t valid.

Michelle

2/22/2018 02:09:22 pm

In class the presenters discussed drama and hardships that they themselves experienced and hardships people they know have faced, one of the presenters mentioned that everyone encounters hardships at some point in their lives and some may experience it multiple times. The overall message was that no matter what a person is coping with, they have truly overcome the most difficult obstacle of living another day and that is considered success.

People may choose different routes when facing major obstacles. In my own life I have dealt with hardship and drama, I have coped with childhood domestic violence that has led to hostile feelings towards my father, alcoholism, overdose attempts and suicidal thoughts. Despite this trial, life went on and turned out positive. I earned my real estate license at 18, stared my own business, and now have healthy relationships with people who were there for me when I needed them the most. Many people turn to alcohol and drugs, or violence as a temporary fix to cope with emotions. Conversely, there are numerous people who have gone through hell and back and are morally happy, and successful.

Rickie Enriquez

2/22/2018 09:19:50 pm

Overall I agree with most of what was presented in class such as hardships are just a part of life. The hardships we endure eventually leave a lasting imprint on us. Another thing that was said in class was that you may never know what is going on in someone else's life which I agree with. What I didn't agree with was the advice to get over it because it is something that is easier said than done. Also I feel that when it comes to topics like these it is best to keep your advice to yourself unless your advice is being asked for. Personally I don't feel like the drama in my life is unlike other people's. Everybody goes through tough times and chances are somebody else out there has been through the same thing or possibly worse. The important thing is that you go through it and you learn from it. In essence hardships are what make us, they shape us into the type of people we are and what we eventually become.

Karla Fausto

2/23/2018 02:17:29 pm

I can agree within the fact that hardship plays its role in a way, we go through our difficulties and we handle them in different ways, we become thoughtful about them. The moments and the situations we encounter can change the way we think and change our opinions about things in life. We become who we are and we must also life through it and continue our life. No one says it can be easy, but we must to get through it to be able to positively succeed in life.(peace)

Ivy

2/23/2018 02:55:03 pm

Drama in general is part of life. In fact, we are not really living unless we have experienced some type of drama or tragedy regardless of how big or small it may seem. Michelle described a story of a husband who continuously cheated on his wife, and eventually left her for someone else in Texas. According to her, the wife never learnt her lesson all the while he was cheating and before she knew it, she found herself alone with a baby on the way. I believe that in the matters of the heart it is often difficult to make sensible decisions. Sometimes we are aware that we can do better, but we continue to hang on.
In addition, Natalia, Bella and Michelle are in agreement that these hardships are a part of life and we should not let them define who we are. Rather, we should rise above them and become better people. I have mixed feelings about Bella’s opinion that we should get over it. While this may be true in some cases, often times we find ourselves in situations that may not be so easy to get over. Take the case of losing a loved one, how does one simply get over it? These things take time, and it is not just about getting over them but learning to accept them as part of life as we know it and finding the best and most productive way to cope.
The upshot of all these is that we will always have drama and tragedy in our lives, and it is only human nature that our tragedy will seem worse than another’s. Unless we have experienced what someone else is facing, we will never really understand just how great their pain is because experience is the best teacher. Furthermore, we all have our limits and breaking points, a tragedy that would shatter another person’s world may not affect another person as much. It all depends on the individual and how much they can handle. Finally, just like they also said in class, all these dramas are a part of life. Every now and then we are bound to face such situations but the trick is to never let it define us negatively, but let it be the stepping stone that ushers us into becoming better people.

Karla Fausto

2/23/2018 03:38:24 pm

They say, that we may encounter difficulties in different ways, that we must get over it, and that it is a part of life. I agree because it is true that tragedies happen as part of life, and everyone will or has faced them at a certain point of their lives, and that we must live through it and get over it in order to positively succeed in life. Our difficulties may not be as bad as other people’s experiences because we don’t life the same life, we don’t do the same things. We make different choices we take different routes and we live at in different way. I do believe that there is some danger in the environment that triggers some hardship but it does not mean that you will have to suffer, although I do believe this is the human experience and it can depend a lot on how well you can handle the situation and how positive of a person you are, I believe that if you involve yourself in more negative thoughts you will have hardship getting through your drama. For example a person that hangs around negative people and is always being negative, or not taking responsibilities may have more drama and hardships.

Gaby Reveles

2/24/2018 12:54:50 pm

Many of us have different opinions about drama , but of course we all will have different opinions because we all go through stuff , no matter who it is. Honestly in my opinion about getting over it its actually impossible deep down all drama situations will alway be in you , what you can do is just push it aside in order for you to keep going on with life and striving for what you'd like , yes brush it off but don't hang on it forever things stick around to help you realize stuff weather its to grow up ,to help you realize something but it will make change.
Through out my personal experiences I had lots of drama since i was 14 now I'm 22 its made me change be more responsible and grow up. Back then I didn't understand anything I was how do you say innocent but drama comes in different ways and situations and you don't have to go brag about it just explain and show with confidence you been able to overcome it and get through it and show everyone you can succeed As I became older no matter where you are drama will be everywhere at school at work as your driving just in every little part of life . No matter what you just have to learn how to deal with any little that comes in your life .

Xiaoyi

2/24/2018 03:28:26 pm

Tragedies, as negative experiences, might not be the best discussion of topics among people, as it surrounds privacy and negative feelings we do not prefer to discuss. We mostly likely felt our tragedy is more devastating than others is the fact that we do not, or have not experience the exact same life as the other person. We also have tendencies not to share too much details since some of us would not want the others to label us as a negative person, which is reasonable because no one likes to hear complaining unless you work as a therapist. We only felt the drama greater than any other person is only because we are in it.
There are ups and downs in our lives, which is what makes human experience better by avoiding and coping with the negative, such as tragedies and dramas. We learned to cope and coexist with them, and try to imagine what others felt during these undesirable events. Without actually experiencing the drama, we will never how exact the other person felt, due to this inaccurate perception of events, we will always came up

Cristian Orellana

2/24/2018 10:24:11 pm

We expeirnce drama in our everyday life. We sometimes feel that our drama is by far the worst then others. We feel like that because we felt the feeling and experience and say im the only one suffering. We have people in our life that like to tell us you should mourn or just stay down and we tend to accept that. Then when people come in our lifes and tell us they have been through worst situations and tell us to get up we start to hate them.

I have had a moment where my dad left the house when i was 18. I experience through depression at a young age when my dad cheated on my mom around the age of 14. I always saw my situation the worst in life and nobodys problem coudnt compare to mine. Then i met my youth pastor and told me that his dad left him when he bearly 1 month old and left his mother to raise him. At first i told him to screw off because He didnt know the pain i felt. But when i chose to talk to him about it he opened up to me also and told him he went through the same pain he felt. Because of the second time i listend i learned that everyone goes through things but real people will be with you in the drama. Surely enough he told me "Get your life rite man, God has a plan for your life" to that moment i never look back on it and decided to be the man of the house. Watching over my mom and siblings.

Mario Leon

2/25/2018 10:48:04 am

Drama, tragedies and hardships are a big piece of life for all. The presentations in class showed different hardships that were handled differently. Between tragedies of lost love ones passing on, splitting and ending marriages with people you love or even experience bullying, degrading ones self-esteem or even lack of love are all examples of daily life for some individuals. I am no one to say which situation is greater in grief. Our emotions and feelings are expressed differently. But i do think that there is stages/levels of our hardship.
For example imagine losing a great grand mother that maybe you have 1 young childhood picture, and minimal memories. Its still a difficult hardship knowing that a close relative has passed on and part of your family are in morning who had a better relationship with her. This is one stage of hardship that more than likely may not cause much pain or trauma. Compare to losing a personal close lifetime friend or or a long loving relationship that had a major impact on your life. More than likely an individual will experience a level of pain and trauma from an incident that is much more closer and personal. You can only understand the level of pain by the emotions that are expressed.

Isaac Recinos

2/25/2018 11:31:12 am

Everything that was said on thursday by my classmates i can agree upon. The things about fate being an error that you cannot control really was good. Fate is danger and we should all be aware of it, especially me. My life right now is in difficult circumstances that I cannot explain. Fate has really got a hold of me and it won't let go. I think it was a really helpful presentation by them and made me decide on my next objective which is to seek help.

Davina Mao

2/25/2018 03:55:45 pm

Many people in the discussion above assume that uncertainty or hardships always been part of life. Everyone goes through drama and hardships, but at that moment she or he would think that her or his is worse than anyone else. You would think that going through drama is just a part of being human. Likewise, all should have experienced some type of drama or tragedy regardless of how big or small it might be. Human who live on this earth still need to work a way out to survive. Therefore, they all need to get over it, and keep moving on. For example, on Bella’s presentation, she said that she has been abused by her own father since she was little. In addition, she have been through many worse situations in her life. However, those bad and danger environment or people have not defined who she is. Instead, she becomes a stronger person. Bella, Michelle, and Natalia’s presentations have the same ideas of how tragedy sharped a person into a stronger and more independent person.
At the same time that I believe people think their tragedy is far greater, hurts more, and far more devastating than others. I also believe that those tragedies and drama is just part of people life. In Tuesday with Morrie by Mitch Albom, Morrie stated: “The truth is, once you learn how to die, you learn how to live.” We cannot expect to live in a healthy environment, surround by only good people things. You treat people well from the bottom of your heart, but do not ever expect all people will treat you back as good as you are doing. Life is a mix up between good and bad. It is sometimes depend on people limitation breaking points. Sometimes, people they are mean just because somehow they think they have been threaten by something. Just accept all good and bad things surround us. Likewise, when tragedy happened in our life, it is normal to feel that our drama is worse than other people. When you feel the emotion, do not hold it back, allow yourself to go all the way through them. You can never get to being detached, you are too busy being afraid. Just like you are afraid of the pain, the grief, the vulnerability that loving entails. Therefore, by throwing yourself into these emotions, by allowing yourself to dive in, all the way, then you experience them fully and completely. I give myself a good cry if I need it, but then I concentrate on all good things still in my life. You think that you have been put into a bad situation already, but out there, there are a lot of people are being to even worse than yours. Think positive and appreciate every moment you have been lived even it is good or bad experience. We should have the empathy for each other in every situation. Spread the love, and life will get better.

Jonathan

2/25/2018 04:48:34 pm

In the class, presenters spoke about hardships they have been through and spoke about why it may seem that ones particular hardship may seem worse than those of another. The way many people go through things, we all do. It seems to be that when one is down in the slumps, that is as low as a person can go. They never in the moment feel that their problems compared to those of others may seem small. We all learn through the course of our time how to deal with our own drama. Some may ignore it and hope it goes away, while others may ignore it knowing that it is a growing problem.

I don’t believe there is a single right way to go about our problems because that is saying that there are no other solutions for it. For as many problems as one may go through, there are always that many more solutions. Sometimes it may be in the eye of the beholder. Whether one may decide to look at the glass as half empty or half full, that can tell you the kind of attitude they will have when it comes to fixing a problem. Ones attitude about their problem can dramatically change the outcome of what it could have been or what it will become.

In the end, all that matters is that we don’t let yesterdays hardships ruin tomorrows glory. We should all move forward when we face a problem in life. It doesn’t matter if its dragging your feet behind one another or giant leaps at a time. The point is to keep moving forward in life no matter what you go through. All without not forgetting to be kind to others who may be going through something. Not all depressed people look sad and not all happy people smile. When you see someone going through their own hardship, you shouldn’t belittle it because you can get over their problem easily if it were you, but simply say something nice and encouraging like “only the toughest warriors are given the toughest battles”.

Luis Salazar

2/25/2018 04:56:35 pm

My classmates said, all people pass through hard times, and it is part of life. Although many think their tragedies are far greater and hurt more, every one has dramas at some point of the life. Tragedies such as a terminal disease, the loss of a father, mother, or siblings, and sexual abuse can cause to commit suicide. I say, drama is something people cannot avoid, and it is part of the school of life. Every day we have a lesson to learn and to pass. This school is ironic if we do not pass the lesson, we will pass through it again. We must to overcome each tragedy we face to move forward to the next step or lesson.

Marcel Martinez

2/25/2018 05:56:05 pm

I agree with all three of the women that presented their opinions to the class. I believe that everyone experiences life differently and is exposed to varying degrees of drama. Some of this drama is shared and can happen to anyone, such as injury, disease, or the loss of a loved one. Some drama is unique to a person's location, race, ethnicity, sex, sexual orientation, or religion.

Other people may experience drama that you perceive to be minimal or frivolous, but we only get a brief glimpse into the lives of most people. How a person perceives and reacts to drama is defined by the context of their lives, which is long and multifaceted. Just because we may not understand or sympathize with what one person is going through, it does not mean that person's feelings about their drama is invalid. So, I agree that everyone's lives and experiences different, and that drama shared by two individuals can affect each differently, so to be able to objectively determine one's drama as greater than another's is a futile effort.

Having said that, I especially agree with Bella's point that at the time of the drama and soon after, while emotions are still high, one's personal drama definitely feels worse than what anyone else may be experiencing. During this period, I can say with certainty that I would not appreciate anyone trying to convince me that my drama is minimal, nor would I attempt to convince another of the same.

I believe the extent of this emotional period varies not only on the severity of the drama, but on the level of education and social awareness of the individual as well. It also depends on mental or emotional disorders the individual experiences, but I believe living with those conditions is a form of drama in and of itself. In any case, this why I believe that, generally speaking, those that view their drama as more significant than others are typically children and teenagers.
That's not to say that I haven't met adults whose lack sympathy and awareness shock me, or children whose unexpected caring and understanding mollify my anxieties of the world.

Erika

2/25/2018 06:38:34 pm

We all have different views on hardship experiences. As Bella shares her personal encounters and introduces us with her view of it, she asserts that when the moment of hardship strikes us we feel as if it is worse than anyone else’s. On the one hand I agree with her that we all go through pain and tragedy. But on the other hand, I disagree when she mentions to get over it with a stern voice. I don’t agree with this because some people are more sensitive and do not have a strong personality to get over things easily.
How wonderful would life be without suffering but these battles are part of life. No one has been spared from hardships. There’s all kinds of hardships. There’s physical, financial, and emotional ones. Despite all these trails, life is tough and we all have our own challenges to face. I don’t believe that anyones hardship is worse than others. I see it as a balance for all. When coming across a hardship it can destroy you or strengthen you. I’ve had my own hardships that I encountered, and those hardest moments are the ones that have propelled me forward the most.

Kisha

2/26/2018 01:44:13 pm

I agree with you Erika. Not all can just "get over it" but in their time they can heal and propell from the situation.

David Duarte

2/25/2018 07:36:38 pm

For the most part I agree with my classmates that presented that everyone goes their own hardships as well as that there is different types of them. For example myself having beaten cancer was an experience I believe was more traumatizing to my parents than its for me given the fact that I went through it. I say this because when reflect back on the experience I look at it and I just say to myself " well I guess it happened to me oh well got live with the after effects" but my parents on the other hand especially mom she tears up just about the moment when I got out of surgery and I literally looked like I was dead. I also believe that if there a hardship that you face then I supposed you were meant to live it and it makes you who you are today

Gromero

2/25/2018 08:09:28 pm

I agree with my classmates on the issue that everyone will experience some form of drama in one’s life. Yet it is heartbreaking to know that when you are going through this hardship in your life, you feel all alone as if you are the only one experiencing this drama. Even after pointing out that you are not alone and that there is help one tends to be convince that no one is experiencing the pain this drama is causing in your life.
I was moved by my classmates sharing their very personal experiences and thought of them as heroes because they were able to share it in class and also share their thought s on how they have overcome the pain but have not forgotten the experience Drama left in their life’s. With this being said it brings me to the idea that it is important to instill in our children, friends and co-workers that Drama is part of life and that one always reach out for help when it becomes overwhelming. There is help and I believe that if we continue to be more open about drama and how it affects us all we can have solutions to our issues and not feel alone.

Angel Muruato

2/25/2018 09:54:42 pm

Individual issues with dramatic events are significant to the self because of trauma experienced by that person alone. Considering any view or any facts concerning empathy can only be determined by that persons character or personality. Therefore

Angel Muruato

2/25/2018 10:18:49 pm

The third verbal response stood out to me the most. The way she went into personal issues within her was intense. I can relate through pain. The trauma from dramatic events I think will change our view on individual situations, therefore making "my drama" worse than your drama.

Briselda Padilla

2/25/2018 10:48:05 pm

When individuals think about other people’s Drama being unequal or equivalent to their own Drama. There’s many questions to take into consideration, such as, What is Drama consider to each individual? In this case, Drama falls into a big challenging word. We want to focus on the individuals background, lifestyle, social economic status, culture, customs, religion, and majorly beliefs. However, eventually some individuals will assume that their Drama is far more worse or tragic than others. Most individuals will assume that it hurts more and that their Drama is far more worse an tragic. Eventually, maybe Drama is just a phase individual are dragged in through the human life span cycle. It can also be question, do people in low social economic status face more drama an tragedy than people in the upper class. Or maybe even people in the upper class face Drama an assume it is tragic? But is it really? Who knows? Maybe money doesn’t buy everything? Eventually Drama is a normal phase in the human life cycle that individuals will eventually find as a disaster. Eventually Drama falls into individual’s downfall or disaster of life which they assume is far more tragic than others. Hurts more. However, Drama is a normal painful experience that individuals are dragged by the human life span cycle because their is no such thing as a perfection in the world.

Gabriel Cortez link

2/25/2018 11:22:43 pm

I really appreciated all of the presenters willingness to open up and share their stories. Happy and funny stories are easy to share. Sad stories can make pain feel like it did the very first time it was felt. I hope I will be as brave as Michelle, Natalia, and Bella when it is my turn to present a journal topic.
Michelle said that she considers every person can have a sad story and uses that to guide her in reserving judgement on people. It is easy to get caught up in the moment and feel like your suffering is the only thing that matters. So actively reminding yourself that a person could potentially have had a very bad life is a great way to keep things in perspective.

Isela

4/10/2018 12:05:56 am

Everyone had different responses once answering this question. in my perspective i believe that each individual responds different to every situation in their lives. Some people can be very dramatic and react crazy in a situation meanwhile other people will be judging that person for the way they are reacting. No one is the same, we do not know what people have gone through some of us are stronger than the other and some of us can't handle any pain. This can be by the way we were brought up as kids but some of can go through the same kind of pain and still react different to a situation in our life. I do believe that there is always danger in the environment and we just some of us do see it and others can care less about it. My drama can only be worse because i will be the only one experiencing it, not anyone else, because it just doesn't concern them.

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